tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704781587266395905.post2961823235199119453..comments2023-10-22T16:02:50.827+01:00Comments on Rob's blog: Duchy of Cornwall, time to pay it's own way?.http://www.blogger.com/profile/09995243127753821611noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704781587266395905.post-81620459158283822022010-10-21T22:37:03.022+01:002010-10-21T22:37:03.022+01:00There is still an exception between Cornwall and t...There is still an exception between Cornwall and the rest of the UK, the foreshore in the case of Cornwall belongs to the Duchy, east of the Tamar it belongs to the crown. <br /><br />The Isle of Man is a bad or perhaps inconsistent example to cite in relation to ownership of the seabed. In international terms the Isle of Man's territorial waters fall under the jurisdiction of the United .https://www.blogger.com/profile/09995243127753821611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704781587266395905.post-87244913140674515232010-10-18T19:39:09.465+01:002010-10-18T19:39:09.465+01:00The sea and seabed off Cornwall (and Britain) belo...The sea and seabed off Cornwall (and Britain) belongs to the UK monarch/government through the Crown Estate. They do not belong to the duke of Cornwall and this fact undermines the claim which some nationalists make that Cornwall is a sovereign entity of which the duke is the sovereign; or a crown dependency. Maritime countries have sovereignty of adjoining seas, their territorial waters, as do Cormarantnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704781587266395905.post-62917107056029630222010-10-15T18:02:55.972+01:002010-10-15T18:02:55.972+01:00Does the Duchy own the foreshore? I have heard thi...Does the Duchy own the foreshore? I have heard this before and there seems to be some evidence that the Crown Estates administer the foreshore etc.Cormorantnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704781587266395905.post-84330224054664598772010-10-15T10:46:55.809+01:002010-10-15T10:46:55.809+01:00The uniqueness is in some sense concerned with geo...The uniqueness is in some sense concerned with geography and the fact due to climate that Cornwall has a large number of beach owners.<br /><br />All lifeguard cover is part funded by the council and part by RNLI whether the land is private e.g. Gwithian beach, MOD e.g. part owners of Perran sands beach or the many Naional Trust beaches.<br /><br />You're right to point out the National Trust.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09995243127753821611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704781587266395905.post-52810960772575422432010-10-15T08:58:40.313+01:002010-10-15T08:58:40.313+01:00But surely much of "uniqueness" is down ...But surely much of "uniqueness" is down to geography and climate? Cornwall has nearly 300 miles of coastline and,(compared to many places in Britain), a mild year-round climate.<br />The National Trust own 110 miles of Cornwall's coastline,(more than a third of the total). Do you know who pays for their lifeguard cover?Cormorantnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704781587266395905.post-53068689655120079832010-10-15T00:52:38.453+01:002010-10-15T00:52:38.453+01:00Firstly thanks for coming back and commenting Corm...Firstly thanks for coming back and commenting Cormorant, I note that you feel that quite unique is not how you would describe the relationship between Cornwall Council and the RNLI. I feel it is so, no authority in the British Isles has a completely unique arrangement with the RNLI. Some authorities provide lifeguard cover inhouse, some only provide limited cover. <br />The way in which I believe.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09995243127753821611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704781587266395905.post-32086309171418947572010-10-14T20:59:29.703+01:002010-10-14T20:59:29.703+01:00As no answer is forthcoming, I must assume you thi...As no answer is forthcoming, I must assume you think it is correct to use a false premise to make a point. I think this may be habit-forming, especially when it comes to the subject of the Duchy.Cormorantnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704781587266395905.post-22987498809253852432010-10-14T19:04:51.242+01:002010-10-14T19:04:51.242+01:00Cornwall Council are not "unique" in pay...Cornwall Council are not "unique" in paying the R.N.L.I. for lifeguard cover. I would be happy if you would address the subject I posted,please.Cormorantnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704781587266395905.post-83376929939337043982010-10-14T18:38:28.436+01:002010-10-14T18:38:28.436+01:00Dear anon, I see your point and I am not arguing t...Dear anon, I see your point and I am not arguing that we should muck the RNLI about or anything similar. Lets not forget its not just in terms of a holiday destination that beach safety is important, locals rely on the crucial service too.<br /><br />Thanks for the breakdown of the figures, out of interest where did you obtain them from?<br /><br /><br />Cormorant: I don't quite understand .https://www.blogger.com/profile/09995243127753821611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704781587266395905.post-62051508885647072832010-10-14T18:14:45.306+01:002010-10-14T18:14:45.306+01:00The whole story falls to bits because this:
"...The whole story falls to bits because this:<br /><br />" Cornwall Council is quite unique amongst councils that it actually pays the RNLI to provide lifeguard cover."<br /><br />Is not correct.Cormorantnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4704781587266395905.post-56012733367454480472010-10-14T16:35:15.083+01:002010-10-14T16:35:15.083+01:00All very well, but the RNLI provide cover worth ab...All very well, but the RNLI provide cover worth about £4 to £5 million, but charge Cornwall Council less than £1.8m. If CC only want to pay for the cover on the 27 beaches they own, the RNLI have said they'll charge a commercial rate, giving the Council a saving of £100k, and leaving the other 30 beaches potentially without cover. The Council are asking the Duchy and National Trust for Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com